Sunday, May 3, 2009

Gun Show Report

Attend the Fort Worth Gun show at the Will Rogers' Coliseum - some place I haven't been since they had wrestling back in the 70s.

Parking wasn't an issue, I parked in a back lot and walked a couple hundred yards to get to the exhibit hall. I carried concealed (since I was hoping to try out some holster options), the police manning the entry table didn't bat an eye, just put a tie down through the barrel and action. Never saw an argument, not a harsh word or argument over the safety precautions.

It was a packed house, I stood in the middle of the room and took shots facing either direction.






I don't know if it is just the combination of Texas manners, friendly gunnies, or just people's natural good nature but as crowded it was almost everyone apologized if they bumped into me or I apologized if I bumped into them.

There were literally thousand of firearms there....so much for the canard that increasing the number of firearms increases the danger. There were many armed confrontations, people buying and selling. I saw many table of licensed dealers, with form 4473 ready and phones set up for back ground checks. I didn't personally see any individuals selling to individuals but I am sure it happened. How many, I don't know.

MikeB asked about Nazi memorabilia. I saw 3 tables with some WWII German items. One table was packed with Lugers and other WWII firearms that I couldn't identify. Could have spent hours learning the history of those guns.

Here are two pictures that show the extent of the "memorabilia". I saw more table selling ShamWow's then I did Nazi items.















I didn't see any booths or even individuals identifiable as "skin heads" or white supremacists. And I was looking. I covered the entire hall, aisle by aisle.

Here is a picture that shows what a rough crowd it was.


Those two schnauzers were simply worn out from all the attention they were getting. It was something to see folks in camo, in suits, carrying all sorts of gear....all of them stopped to pet them.


Not FEMA concentration camp stuff, no hate or fear of Obama. I did hear politics being discussed but nothing I didn't hear while Bush was in office.

There were a couple of tables for "survivalists" but nothing paranoid. There was a table discussing how to add gold or silver to your investment portfolio. There were a couple of tables with survival supplies, but in any state those items are common sense. Rechargeable flash lights are getting hot. There was a really interesting stainless steel water purifying system - (note to self -- remove pamphlets before washing clothes if you want to blog about it later). Here in Texas aka Tornado Alley, it is entirely possible to loose clean water for days. A system like that want be a smart investment. I think it was something like this.


One of the things this show really brought home was the opportunity to see which firearms fit my hand. I saw many that I would like to add to my inventory eventually. Being able to go from a Kel-Tec P3AT to a SeeCamps 380 to judge fit, size, etc was very helpful.

The other thing I realized is this is just like any other hobby. I've been to remote control exhibits, I've been to photography shows, computer swap meets and this was no different. A mixture of established businesses and private people selling and swapping gear, talking about what they like to do. Just regular people getting together to enjoy their hobby.

So I went to the show with some goals in mind. Well, let's see how I did.

1st item was some B27 style targets. -- Accomplished; picked up a roll of 20 for $9.

2nd was holster options. There were many to choose from but I ended up not purchasing anything. I didn't see any shoulder holsters that met my 2 requirements, comfort and price. The comfortable ones weren't in the price range for today....and the ones in the price range weren't as comfortable. Well, my birthday is coming up maybe I'll get some cash or gift cards.

3rd magazine carrier. Saw a couple but until I've settled on a holster I am going to wait. Most of the carriers weren't acceptable for the nature of the clothes I usually wear. I'll keep looking.
Didn't see any of the concealment undershirts at the show, but might spring for one online. A coworker highly recommends them.

4th ammo. When did they start making .45 ACP and .380ACP out of 18K gold? Luckily, I've stocked a little .380 so I'm okay there. Have some .45 coming, supposedly, so I'm okay there also. Didn't see any .38 special hollow points that weren't reloads so I'll keep looking. Did pick up some 12 ga. Double aught buckshot.

Also picked up some snap caps. I thought of making my own as suggested by Tom, but wanted something that would stand out at the range when doing malfunction drills. These are purple aluminum so they'll stand out. It will also make it easier to insure I'm using training rounds for practicing drawing from concealment.

All in All a very enjoyable 2 hours. If I hadn't had errands to do, I probably would have spend 3 to 6 hours there. Not bad for 8 bucks.

12 comments:

Unknown said...

Thanks a million, Bob. I expected nothing less than such a thorough report from you. You said it all with this line: "Just regular people getting together to enjoy their hobby."

Bob S. said...

MikeB,

What does that mean?
You said it all with this line:

Weer'd Beard said...

I look forward to MikeB using this post to stab you in the back after working it through his dogma filter.

Weer'd Beard said...

BTW Bob, on your comparison to other trade shows, I concur. Gun Shows look and feel EXACTLY like Home Improvement Expos, Craft Shows, and the Vendor Rooms at Anime Conventions. Hell my Folks were at an AARP convention a few years ago, and THAT sounded a lot like a gunshow.

The ONLY difference are the goods being sold, and the interests of the people in attendance.

tom said...

One other difference, Weer'd, some people like me you have to shout at and not because you're angry at us.

Hearing protection is better and mostly mandatory for when y'all folk started rather than an oddity when I started.

AARP convention would probably be about the same on volume of conversations. :-)

Bob, where's the pic of the Lugers and such? You're a tease!

Glad you had a good time.

tom

Bob S. said...

Tom,

I am a tease. Was headed out the door with my camera and realized the batteries were dead. Poor planning on my part.

So, I used by cell phone to take the pictures that I posted.

I was so wrapped up in seeing everything, that I forgot to take pictures mostly.

I have another block buster picture to post this evening. Incontrovertible proof that the anti-gun folks are right about the gun shows. Stay tuned for breaking news.

tom said...

Did the guy from FI Ft Worth still have a Bren for sale on his table to drool over? Only Title II/NFA thing of interest I saw in Denton other than a M-14 that was pretty minty for a service rifle.

I'll check back in later for the blockbuster.

Bob S. said...

Didn't see a Bren...of course I could have looked right at it and not realized.

I snuck a peak at the image of a Bren and nothing like that stuck in my mind.

Bob S. said...

MikeB???

Care to elaborate on your rather cryptic comment?

Unknown said...

Sorry, Bob, I didn't mean to be cryptic at all. Usually you should take my words at face value. I'm sure you saw exactly what you said. I wonder if I would have seen it that way, and if not, why not? Let's say I went to the same show and described it totally differently. Would that mean that only I'm biased and you're not? Or could it mean that we're both slanted by our biases, you in your way, I in mine? How's that work for you.

Actually I don't have much trouble accepting your "regular people" comment, but when Weer'd went on with "Home Improvement Expos, Craft Shows," I think that's a bit much.

Bob S. said...

MikeB,

Yes, we both have our bias. The issue is whether we can overcome those bias to objectively report on what we see.

I think that I can do that. It really is what I do for a living. I try not to say much about my job online. But, it is what I do for a living.

There are approximately 80 million gun owners. Personally, I think that count is low. Way Low.

I think that many people when asked about "owning" guns don't consider themselves to be gun owners. For many people, having Dad's old .22 in the closet or Aunt Bessy's .38 in a sock drawer doesn't make them an "owner". Heck, how many times have we heard of someone completely forgetting they had a firearm in the house.

As for as the regular people, I belong to a private gun range.

I interact with many of the members. We have architects, engineers, warehouse workers, doctors, nurses, carpenters, plumbers, electricians, office clerks, etc as members.

Unless you've been to a gun show, how can you know whether or not is is similar to a craft show or not?

This is one of the most frustrating things about dealing with you MikeB. You state your opinion on the basis of no factual knowledge-- discounting the factual knowledge of those who have been there.

We present you with tons of data, evidence, statistics, anecdotes and information. Taken singularly any one of those could be questionable, but taken as a whole the picture is clear. Yet, you still reject that information in favor of your own opinion. You are entitled to your opinion, but not your own truth. The truth of the matter is gun availability isn't the problem. It is the culture, values, principles, ethics of the people owning the guns.

You've given me a great idea for a post. Thanks

jdberger said...

I just attended a show out in my neck of the woods. It was pretty similar, though not as well lit.

The scramble for ammo was insane. I'm glad I reload and have plenty of components.

We had a couple of tables of the paranoid stuff. One about "fiat money" that most folks just walked by. Someone had a small collection of Hitler Youth knives. Most looked like WWII bringbacks.

Tons of beef jerky, crystals and beanie babies.

And the sweetest little .22. It was a Stevens "visible loader" pump gun. Really unique. I should have gotten the vendor's card.